Kashif Hafeez Siddiqui

Ahamadi Lobby Combine Efforts @ Kashifiat

In Anti Ahmadiies on September 22, 2009 at 8:53 pm

During browsing I find the following call of Ahmadi lobby for combine effort at Kashfiat

http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2009/09/18/blasphemy-an-editorial/

 

& then we see various Ahmadi supporters visit here e.g. Jay  

I also want to mention that I have no problem with their comments & we welcome them here.

Alhamdullilah, we can answer them well & we are not afraid.

Lahore Ahmadi Group

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  1. nice watching. Keep it up.

    We should engage in discussions.

  2. I hope you don’t smell conspiracy in this as well. A blog does not mean a lobby. Its just a blog.

  3. if it is not conspiracy then why you guys are planning and talking …..just ignore it..

  4. The poor guy only asked any member to post his comment as it was probably being held for approval.

  5. Lutf,

    it is meaningless to argue with these people. They are convinced there is a massive qadiani-conspiracy behind everything. Pathetic. Watch them label me qadiani now….

    • @desi cheeta aka danial burki!!!1

      this is not true…this is a genuine conspiracy…
      qadiyanis are well protected and supported by british and israeli govts..they have a good ties with them….why???
      a jew professor (I.T Naomi)revealed in his book “israel: a profile” about the recruitment of 600 pakistani soldiers….
      also the existence of a qadiyani town in the strategic location of israel.
      that is the enough evidence for me. and enough for any mulsim with the faith…if not enough for you than i must suggest you “ghussa pee kar so ja”.
      and it is worth reminding you that the debate is not on some cospiracies rather on the very basic issue which casted them away “the khatam e nabuwwat”
      the finality fo the prophet mohammed(pbuh) ….
      its a religious discussion..leave it to others ..;))

      • VERY INTERESTING COMMENT AND CONSPIRACY THEORY: ” qadiyanis are well protected and supported by british and israeli govts..they have a good ties with them….why??? ”

        The only ones of significance that the British or American or Jews (by their lobbying positions) have supported or protected are:

        1. Sikandar Mirza
        2. Ayub Khan
        3. Yahya Khan
        4. Zia ul Haq
        5. Benazir Bhutto
        6. Pervez Musharraf
        7. Asif Zardari
        8. Altaf Hussain

        I believe all of the above were Pakistani heads of state or of a party. All of them are/were Muslims. They all represented majority of Pakistanis.

        Very strange bed fellows. Very strange conspiracy theory. Hum!!!

  6. ha ha now you think I’m danial burki, how pathetic…sad, how delusional you are…

  7. My post is criticized by Jamaat-I-Islami, Pakistan blogger on his blog Kashfiat. He declared my post as “During browsing I find the following call of Ahmadi lobby for combine effort at Kashfiat”. But he obviously failed and tried to hoodwink my question that I asked him particularly.

    I would like to read what he has to say about Judge comments about Jamaat-I-Islami leader Khurshied Ahmad (the professor whose Honorary PhD degree was rescinded by British University). Mr Kashfiat can read judge comments in her decision starting from page 93:
    The Ahmadiyya Case — Judgment in 1987 court case in Cape Town between Sheikh Jassiem (an Ahmadi sympathiser) and the anti-Ahmadiyya Ulama:
    by Her Ladyship Justice Van Den Heever (Supreme Court of South Africa, Provincial Division)
    1987 Court Case in Cape Town:

    http://aaiil.org/text/books/others/misc/ahmadiyyacase/2/ahmadiyyacase2.shtml

    If he cares and has an iota of honesty then I expect him to read lies by his leader i.e. Khurshied Ahmad:
    False propaganda by our opponents
    (Prof. Khurshid Ahmad’s news article translated)

    http://www.ahmadiyya.org/sa-case2/part2.htm#sentence

    And its reply:
    Our Reply
    (to the Urdu article published by our opponents)

    http://www.ahmadiyya.org/sa-case2/part3.htm

    Link to Kashfiat article in reply to my post:

    http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/ahamadi-lobby-combine-efforts-kashifiat/

  8. @Kashfiat:
    “Alhamdullilah, we can answer them well & we are not afraid.”

    But you did NOT answer my question!!!!

  9. @dr jawwad khan:
    “debate is not on some cospiracies rather on the very basic issue which casted them away “the khatam e nabuwwat”
    the finality fo the prophet mohammed(pbuh) ….
    its a religious discussion..leave it to others ..;)”

    Dr. Jawwad Khan sahib,
    FACTS ARE DIFFERENT.
    It is people like you who do NOT believe in “the khatam e nabuwwat”. You people are negating finality of prophethood with Rasul Allah SAWS.
    LAHORI-AHMADIS are the ONLY people among Muslims who 100% believe in Finality of Prophethood with Rasul Allah SAWS. They believe NO new or old prophet can come after Rasul Allah SAWS.
    I will give links to Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement (LAM) literature to support my claim. I will do it in next post, as my concern is if i provide links in this post, it may not go through and get posted. Look for next post. Thanks.

  10. @dr jawwad khan:
    Dr sahib:
    Here is link that will answer your many questions and will clear misconcepts about Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement (LAM). I am sure you will come to realize that LAM is group of Muslims who collectively believe in finality of prophethood with Rasul Allah SAWS. InshAllah.

    http://www.ahmadiyya.org/cont-ahm.htm

  11. @rashid sahib!!!

    say that i believe in finality of the prophethood of hazrat mohammed (saww) and curse & wrath of Allah(swt) be upon kazzab and dajjal e laeen mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani….

    • Dear Dr. Jawwad Khan:

      Without claim to knowing the full truth of Islam, at least I say this much that one does not become a better or true Muslim by uttering curses. Your title includes “Dr.” You can be a source and a guidance for Ummah if you could excel in your field and provide break through research and development that the human race can benefit from. May be you are next nobel laureate. Why not. Then your personal example can be a source of spread of Islam.

      I believe your heart is in the right place. You want to protect your faith from any dilution. Rest assured, Islam is Allah’s religion, that came to us from the greatest person that ever lived, even in the secular sense i.e. Muhammad PBUH – the last of the Prophets; and the last of the Books i.e. Quran. Allah assures the protection of dignity of all these and history is witness to this protection. Islam is not a religion to be born into, but to be adopted by mature minds. Cursing only repels future potential Muslims.

      Muhammad PBUH never declared anyone his enemy for the simple reason that he saw a potential Muslim in each and every one of opponents e.g. he is on record to pray that atleast one of the Omar (bin khattab – the 2nd caliph OR the other one famously called Abu Jahl) to accept Islam.

      This website reflects Jamaat Islami point of view. Such cursing only shifts its focus away from decent intellectual discussion.

  12. @ dr jawwad khan sahib:
    “and curse & wrath of Allah(swt) be upon kazzab and dajjal e laeen mirza ghulam ahmed qadiyani”

    Since when it has become part of Kalima-e-Shahada???
    Unless you are inventing history, Rasul Allah SAWS NEVER asked new converts to Islam in his life time, when Masleema Kazab was in the business of his own prophethood, to curse him (Masleema Kazab)???

  13. CORRECTION.
    My mistake. I apologize.
    In my above post dated September 26th, 2009. I wrote:
    “I would like to read what he has to say about Judge comments about Jamaat-I-Islami leader Khurshied Ahmad (the professor whose Honorary PhD degree was rescinded by British University). Mr Kashfiat can read judge comments in her decision starting from page 93.”
    I MEANT Professor Mahmood Ahmad Ghazi, and NOT Professor Khurshied Ahmad.
    BUT POINT MADE BY DR. ZAHID AZIZ (blog master of Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement blog) STILL REMAINS VALID:
    QUOTE:
    “Prof. Khurshid Ahmad was present in court in Cape Town in the 2nd court case in 1987. He was due to testify after Prof. Mahmud Ahmad Ghazi’s lengthy evidence. It was mid-December when Prof KA’s turn came. The lady judge asked if he would finish his evidence before the Christmas break. The counsel for his side said that he had to collect and give too much evidence, for which there was no time before the Christmas break. So the hearings were postponed till February 1988, for Prof KA to come back with his evidence. We spent that time worrying what was this mass of evidence that he was going to bring. When the hearings resumed in February, Prof KA was nowhere to be seen! He made his escape, and never appeared in the witness box.

    Anyhow, in December the counsel for his side had already told the court that Prof KA would not be appearing as an expert witness on Islam, but would merely be a factual witness to the fact that Ahmadis have been declared non-Muslims all over the Muslim world. That was another covering tactic, so that Prof KA could not be cross-examined about the teachings of Islam, as he would not have been appearing as expert witness on Islam!

    Ask Prof Khurshid Ahmad these questions:

    Was he not in court in Cape Town in 1987 and due to testify to prove that Ahmadis are non-Muslims?

    Did he not fail to appear ever, at all, to give his evidence, while the court was expecting him?

    Was it perhaps seeing Prof Ghazi suffer under cross-examination that made Prof KA run away using a false excuse?”
    END QUOTE.

  14. My information regarding revoking of honorary doctorate degree, previously conferred by British University to Senator Professor Khurshied Ahmad is based on a column in Dawn newspaper by Ardeshir Cowasjee, published few years ago.

  15. You may also wish to tune into MTA today (Sat17 Oct) at 4pm GMT for a live phone in Q&A session.

    http://www.alislam.org/mta/index.php?stream=1&play=

  16. laugh out loud!!!
    it seems like your enemies entered your house,sit on your sofa, asked you to bring cup of tea and started chatting with each other.its hilarious
    its time to kick some intruding butts.

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    http://www.khatm-e-nubuwwat.org/

  19. Why Qadyanis turn off when they are called as “Qadyanis”? do they hate that they re associated with their Vatican(Qadian)?

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